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Post by timewalker on Dec 26, 2011 22:35:14 GMT -5
Yes! I was fascinated by this article. it's just another example of how God works in every detail of life.
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Post by dragonlots on Dec 26, 2011 23:39:34 GMT -5
timewalker, I follow Biblical archeology - with satellite images, there's a good chance Eden has been found. It is said to exist where four rivers crossed - no don't remember their names. However, the satellite image I saw showed the dried river beds of all four . Eden currently is under water. www.kjvbible.org/rivers_of_the_garden_of_eden.htmlDinosaurs - a really sticky subject between creationists and evolutionists. I think you could safely do whatever you wanted and get away it, as long as the science behind it made sense. What I will tell you is that in the book of Job - the Behemoth/Leviathan - is a fire breathing sea serpent. Some speculate it is a dino or hippo or gator. However, when you put the entire description together - it's very clear what is actually is. A good show to watch which I think will help you is called 'Prehistoric Park'. It was a six part series run on Animal Planet a few years back. Basically it deals with traveling back in time and bringing dinosaurs into the present. It's entertaining and educational.
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Post by waldenwriter on Dec 27, 2011 12:20:10 GMT -5
Just a minor quibble here. Moses didn't write Genesis, he only edited it. If you go through the first few chapters of Genesis, there will be this little phrase, "These are the generations of Adam" or Seth or Noah. That's each author's signature. The creation story has God's signature at the end. (I think it's the phrase "this is the account of how everything was made" or something similar). That's why there's that phrase, "There were giants on the earth in those days (and also after that)", the parenthesis being probably inserted by Moses. Moses and company had to deal with giants like Ai, who had the giant metal bed that went into a museum. Sorry, I don't mean to argue. We made an exhaustive study of Genesis over the years and I have all these odd factoids stuck in my head. :-) It's all right. I've just always heard that Moses wrote all five books of the Pentateuch (first 5 books of the Bible). It seems pretty clear that he wrote Exodus through Deuteronomy, so people assume he wrote Genesis as well. Just like some people think Paul wrote the book of Hebrews (and I think some Bibles actually DO attribute it to him).
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Post by tris on Dec 28, 2011 16:47:50 GMT -5
Just throwing a few more tidbits into the arena....There was a History Channel feature on the Sphinx and Giza Pyramids that supported a pre-flood culture -- mainly due to the type of water erosion in and around the area. Perhaps a Google search would turn up the exact title.
I do know that on the ruins at Osirus' palace, there purports to be inscriptions of helicopters and aircraft doing battle.
Also I always thought the Egyptian hieroglyphs were the pinnacle of language, not the beginning. Just look at your computer or office copier to see what I mean. Icons everywhere. Makes for a universal language. the only reason we assume it's basic is because the "experts" are set on a logical evolutionary time frame...which may or may not be right.
Which brings us to dating ancient languages. Some were courtly languages, others business and then the common. A more modern example is High, Middle and Low German. Without having all the pieces to the puzzle, we have a tendency to "arrange" things by date that should be "layered" by function.
I've got to bookmark this thread and go back and look up Kessie's links. This is the king of discussion I love. Ancient history is my hobby/passion. If it's not 4,000 years old I'm not interested.
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Post by Kessie on Jan 4, 2012 23:30:24 GMT -5
I was looking at websites with the Ica stones, and ran across these pics of a "weird map of Earth". www.crystalinks.com/icastones.htmlThe website says, "Dr. Cabrera continued his research with geologists to interpret the maps on several stones showing a weird configuration of the world. Some angles and land masses looked vaguely familiar, but the majority were badly skewered into strange shapes. Geologists have confirmed that based on current computer projections, the shapes indicated on the rocks are indeed accurate for the planet Earth, as it was, about 13,000,000 (million) years ago - pre-stone age. " See the four rivers? I am somewhat freaked out here!
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Post by yoda47 on Jan 5, 2012 14:13:39 GMT -5
Kessie, that's pretty cool. sounds like the date is way off though... (evolutionists assume continental drift at the current rate for all time... but if you look at what the flood would have done, it could split the continents in days or months instead of years.)
Makes you wonder if it's a pre-flood artifact, or if it's a map someone made of how the earth looked before the flood.
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Post by Kessie on Jan 5, 2012 14:50:53 GMT -5
I was just looking at the ica stones for ideas on dinosaur/dragon thingies (since it's the Chinese year of the Dragon). The stone depicting open heart surgery is amazing. It's at that link up there in my post.
It got me thinking. Our entire culture is based on petroleum and plastics. But before the flood, they didn't have that. They had stone. They built everything out of it, and were really, really good at it. Imagine if we built skyscrapers out of stone instead of metal and plastics. They couldn't be so tall, for one thing, but we'd make good use of the pyramid shape.
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Post by timewalker on Jan 5, 2012 23:37:02 GMT -5
Stone houses wouldn't work...it would ruin my wifi connection ;D
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Post by Divides the Waters on Jan 5, 2012 23:46:57 GMT -5
dontmesswithdinosaurs.com/?p=471Kessie, check this out. I learned on my last trip to Cameroon that Mokele-mbembe has an inflatable dewlap it uses for vocalizations. Thanks to that, and some of the features shown on ancient art, I have been re-thinking the way some of these animals might have looked "in the flesh." This artist, while phenomenal, is NOT a creationist, but I loved what he did and the way he thinks. Also, you should check out the "creationist James Gurney" here: www.lavoiestudios.com/nod/gallery.html
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Post by Kessie on Jan 6, 2012 1:11:51 GMT -5
An inflatable dewlap? That's awesome!!! I do like the way that guy thinks, as well as the remark that "real animals look ridiculous".
I'd call that a dragon if I happened across one. And I'd probably run for my life shortly afterward.
How'd they find out that the mokele-mbemble has a dewlap? Did they have a close encounter with one? :-)
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Post by Divides the Waters on Jan 6, 2012 19:27:35 GMT -5
Kessie, yes, most of the people we talked to knew of the animal, and several from firsthand encounters. The guy who drew the dewlap on the animal also mimed its expansion and mimicked the sounds. Very cool.
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