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Post by myrthman on Jan 25, 2013 14:15:02 GMT -5
This phrase popped when reading Proverbs 30 recently. I don't know who she is or what she does, but I'm intrigued to find out. I'm pretty sure she has a twin but doesn't yet know it.
(She sounds like a monster of sorts, so I picked this board.)
Who is the Leech? Who is its/his/her daughter? What motivates this person/being? What does she do when she learns about her sister?
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Post by Kessie on Jan 25, 2013 14:46:42 GMT -5
She says, "Give, give!" Some kind of vampire, maybe.
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Post by myrthman on Jan 25, 2013 19:18:19 GMT -5
My first thought too. Any other ideas?
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Post by Kessie on Jan 25, 2013 20:29:15 GMT -5
The leech guy from Grimm comes to mind, only he sucked other people's identities.
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Post by fluke on Jan 25, 2013 22:42:10 GMT -5
This question inspired me to look up the verse in my Bible resources.
From the article "Animals of the Bible."
I'm going to disagree with Wood and Marshall here. They are eliminating the vampire on naturalistic grounds. There is no reason that the Hebrew for horseleech cannot be related to the arabic for vampiress. Besides, using fabulous creatures in a teaching comparison is fine. It's not like fire literally speaks.
Some take the daughters to be the two parts of the sucking apparatus.
Jamieson, Fausset, and Brown add this:
Zohar, a Jewish book of mysticism, describes a dog in Gehenna that barks, "Hab, hab."
Vampiric demons (Eric Wilson, are you reading this) and hellhounds.
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Post by myrthman on Jan 26, 2013 19:36:30 GMT -5
I learned yesterday that leeches have two suckers: one with jaws on the "head" for feeding and another on the other end for anchoring to rocks and such in rivers. The two daughters in the Bible??
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Post by newburydave on Feb 5, 2013 2:09:07 GMT -5
A bit of history, (ahem).
Up until the advent of modern scientific medicine and the germ theory of disease, bleeding was the universal "medical" treatment for most diseases.
Many of the "doctors" used leeches to bleed people, those who didn't still removed blood. Hence the common vernacular for a "medical doctor" was "a Leech".
The Leech's daughter would be the daughter of a medical doctor or Barber Surgeon ( the formal title in Midieval times).
Sorry to take the paranormal romance out of it.
Write on beloved siblings
SGD
dave
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Post by myrthman on Feb 5, 2013 9:37:33 GMT -5
So, the leech in Proverbs could refer to the animal or the doctor. Interesting. Thanks, Dave!
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Post by fluke on Feb 5, 2013 13:21:00 GMT -5
Was leech a common name for doctors in the OT times? If not, I'd say the Proverb is still referring to the animal.
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Post by newburydave on Feb 8, 2013 15:57:48 GMT -5
My reference was to Medieval times. The Jews had a much better grasp of "modern" medical science because of what the scriptures revealed. (Hyssop Oil is an Antibiotic, among other things).
This leads me to believe that the Proverbial reference is to the animal Leech. However, the principle being alluded to is greed hence I think it had a much wider allegorical meaning to the Jews. I think they even called the Roman tax collectors (Publicans) leeches.
In the view of Jesus the corrupt temple authorities and their thieving assistants in the court of the Gentiles were definitely leeches.
Something to think about as we bring it forward in history to today.
Write on beloved siblings
SGD
dave
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Post by Divides the Waters on Feb 8, 2013 18:18:37 GMT -5
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Post by newburydave on Feb 10, 2013 21:06:39 GMT -5
It does look like a good reference, but I fear it's over my head.
I bookmarked it though.
Thanks
SGD
dave
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