Post by Jeff Gerke on Oct 19, 2009 13:25:06 GMT -5
In a plot right out of a science fiction novel, two scientists are now claiming that the Large Hadron Collider is having such bad luck getting fired up because it is being sabotaged from the future. Possibly by God.
In one astounding quote, the scientists say, "One could even almost say that we have a model for God."
Post by Jeff Gerke on Oct 19, 2009 21:40:07 GMT -5
Yeah, no kidding. But I'm impressed that they'd even say such a thing. According to I Corinthians 1, the wisdom of man will never arrive at the knowledge of God, which I take to mean that lost people will never conclude, based on science or reason or anything else, that there is a God--as we understand Him from the Bible. This guy almost refutes that. It's fascinating.
There's a lot more going on in that article than at first glance. Their responses didn't strike me so much as boastful as it did awestruck. They're quite impressed with what they are seeking on a scientific level and are talking accordingly. Too bad they don't realize that He's seeking them even more than they are in return.
But in general I'm not a person who will criticize scientists even if a lot of them aren't believers - unless they're just flat out wrong, and don't think that there aren't scientists out there that are believers because it does happen, and not the ones that go around as preachers promoting only the Creationism aspect. I'm talking legitimate scientists that still study and perform science to better the human race while they're at it.
So let me ask you, do you ever consider if it was a Christian or a non-believer that invented or manufactured the Tylenol in your medicine cabinet when you have a headache or do you simply pop the pill? Or how about the chemical blend in the laundry detergent that you use? Does it matter to you who came up with it or who is perfecting each stage of it year in and year out? How about the cheese cracker you had on your break at work? All of it is science in one way or another.
So the next time you're washing your shirt because you spilled some syrup on it, ask yourself if it was a believer or a non-believer that invented or manually manufactured the syrup on your shirt, and who stitched your shirt together, and just what kind of person came up with the pre-wash that you will use to get the stain out, and just who came up with your particular washing machine anyway? Whoever did is only a few steps away from being the person who decided to come up with such a machine as mentioned in the article, or just hired to work on the project.
After all, if they do find some way to show how God created things - even if they're still calling it The Big Bang - isn't that a good thing? Who knows? It might make believers out of them as I've heard trips to outer space has done for some astronauts that didn't believe before.
Out of curiosity, has anyone other than myself read Dan Brown's Angels & Demons? I first read it a good couple of years or so before he published The Da Vinci Code, so I had no preconceived notions either positive or negative going into it. I thought it was a great read and I remember the chapters that take place at CERN very well. I still haven't read The Da Vinci Code, nor have I seen the movie.
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Post by Jeff Gerke on Oct 21, 2009 14:29:31 GMT -5
Excactly. I mean, if you didn't know about the time travel (because you weren't doing it) you'd never know that anything could've or should've been different.
Maybe the collider actually did get turned on and it actually did destroy the world, but some survivors from the space station managed to hold out long enough to invent a time travel device and come back to prevent it from being turned on. We'd never know any different!
Last Edit: Oct 21, 2009 14:30:09 GMT -5 by Jeff Gerke
This is why I love time travel... and why it's so hard to write a really good one, IMO. If someone did manage to travel back in time and change events, we'd never know the difference. But would that person? If Joe changes the past and then returns to his present, will he still be the same Joe? Wouldn't he change along with everyone else?
Give me something to ponder for the rest of the evening!
Post by Grace Bridges on Nov 24, 2009 19:51:50 GMT -5
There's a plot line sort of like that in The Didymus Contingency by Jeremy Robinson, where scientists receive a functional time-travel device sent back by their future selves after completing it. Awesome book, btw! And a great indy publishing success story.
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Post by courageforever on Nov 27, 2009 16:25:39 GMT -5
Actually, the plot is very similar to "Blasphemy" by Douglas Preston. Supercollider...malfunctions...God starts talking to them...etc.
Not recommending that book, though. I couldn't get through it because the "Christian" characters were so Hollywood stereotypical. TV evangelist/hypocrite condeming the supercollider. Someone puts a call out on the Internet and an angry mob of "believers" appear. Even had another pastor who works with impoverished Native Americans...who was also a murderer. Bah!