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Jan 24, 2012 12:26:22 GMT -5
Post by j2starshine on Jan 24, 2012 12:26:22 GMT -5
Dave: wow. I want to bookmark your comment I was home-schooled for the last two years of my highschool and we were part of a co-op and we had a creation scientist come in. He talked about the dinosaurs & the possibility of fire-breathing dragons. With all the interesting references in the Bible (Genesis, Job, Revelations, etc), I totally believe it is possible.
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Jan 24, 2012 12:27:44 GMT -5
Post by j2starshine on Jan 24, 2012 12:27:44 GMT -5
thanks for the links, yoda, will have to check them out!
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Jan 24, 2012 16:19:03 GMT -5
Post by Kessie on Jan 24, 2012 16:19:03 GMT -5
Dragonlots: Will you be doing an official post when the anthology for dragon stories opens up? I'd love to write something, but I'll never remember where you posted the information about it if it stays in this thread.
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Jan 25, 2012 19:27:56 GMT -5
Post by dragonlots on Jan 25, 2012 19:27:56 GMT -5
Kessie - when the anthology officially opens for submissions - yes - I will be posting it. I'm hoping to talk to the publisher this weekend and see if she's read them or not. Tentatively, the antho won't open up until about June. I just wanted to give everyone a heads up and this seemed like a good place to post a 'sneak peak'.
I'm also toying with these two titles - right now I'm calling it Different Dragons, but I'm thinking 'Dragons were Real' or 'Dragons are Real' - are good possibilities.
Would love know what everyone else thinks.
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Jan 25, 2012 19:51:30 GMT -5
Post by Kessie on Jan 25, 2012 19:51:30 GMT -5
How about "Real Dragons"? Or "Live Dragons" or "Local Dragons" or "Dragons Nearby" or "Dragons Near and Far" ... wandering a bit, there ...
I have a typical medieval dragon story I could dust off, or I could write a more modern (mystery?) with my oddball dragon/kitsune pair. Are mythical creatures other than dragons okay, as long as there's a dragon?
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Jan 25, 2012 21:49:48 GMT -5
Post by dragonlots on Jan 25, 2012 21:49:48 GMT -5
Kessie - I like 'Dragons Near and Far' much better than what I came up with. If the publisher likes it - would you mind if we used it?
One word of warning to all possible writers for the dragon antho - I'm very serious when I say I will only be taking four or five Fantasy stories and one of those slots are already filled. (The story idea was pitched to me a couple of weeks ago and I really, really want the story. It has a different twist that makes it desirable and is just outside what is normal for dracos.)
Kessie, if you write me a modern day mystery with a dragon and a kitsune pair, I looked up the latter to see what it was, that would be great. That's the type of 'out of the box' thinking I'm looking for.
I honestly want writers to think of a dragon story that DOES NOT have a Fantasy setting. There are three good examples in 'Of Fur and Fire' of authors who 'went outside the box'. 'Of Chaos was born Dragons' by Prince Shadari which is the ONLY Science Fiction Story I got. 'Diarmad' a lovely little modern day horror story by Pamela M. Nishiser. And my piece 'Behemoth' because I dared to dip into the Bible and use the sea dragon from Job.
The rest were the typical Fantasy stories - which I will not be looking for in this antho.
As I said, I will be posting the guidelines for the antho as soon as they are approved and open for submissions.
I will suggest that writers start researching the Chinese Lung, Lindworm, Knucker, Dwarf Dragon and all the other lovely types of dragons who exist. 'Dragonology' is a great place to start. It lists different types of dragons, their behavior, habitat, markings, etc. There are many great story ideas in that information alone.
When writing the story the 'What if' question really should be asked. An example would be, what if you were camping and a Dwarf Dragon stole your favorite hat. You followed it and got swarmed by the hive, they're very small dragons complete with a queen, just like you'd expect to be by killer bees...
I think that kind of gives everyone a basic idea on what I'll be looking for. In TTC - my time traveling story involves a dragon and a serval and a very interesting piece of information I found out about a certain very popular legend....and it starts on another planet! I talked to my publisher about the story and it caught her interest BECAUSE it wasn't your typical dragon tale.
I think I've given enough hints for now. Official guidelines will go up when approved and open.
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Jan 26, 2012 11:39:15 GMT -5
Post by yoda47 on Jan 26, 2012 11:39:15 GMT -5
What about sc-fi dragons?
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Jan 26, 2012 12:15:12 GMT -5
Post by Divides the Waters on Jan 26, 2012 12:15:12 GMT -5
Urgh. My second book has a sort of plot involving dragons, of a sort, that could possibly be written into a standalone, but it is set on another world, and I don't know what the ramifications of publishing like that would be. On the creation science front: I heartily recommend Dire Dragons by Vance Nelson. It is absolutely worth every penny. www.untoldsecretsofplanetearth.com/store/
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Jan 27, 2012 6:34:38 GMT -5
Post by newburydave on Jan 27, 2012 6:34:38 GMT -5
DL; The story universe I mentioned is definitely a Space Opera / Science Fiction world; dragons are more often than not my main POVs. I enjoy writing draconic characters who are technical geeks and fly spaceships in epic battles. Think Honor Harrington with scales, wings, ten cm long talons and who can spit fire when the situation calls for it. Is this anthology going to be for short stories? Will they be in the 6000 word length? Most of my shorts struggle to stay under 10k. If "Dragons near and Far" is the name I may have some for you. Some of my Draconic stories are set on a planet named Dirax III, 90,000 light years from Earth on the opposite rim of our galaxy. Others are set on Enoch, a planet 10k LY from Earth with some very unusual life forms. And of course I fill in our own Antedeluvian past with human and draconian characters back when men lived 600-800 years. I'm working on a short for another venue right now, a character development piece that is all dragons but definitely not your typical fantasy dragons. If the other venue doesn't want it I may bounce it off of you. Are you truly accepting pitches for inclusion at this time. Please keep us informed. Write on Sis Still praying for you and yours SGD dave
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Jan 27, 2012 6:52:54 GMT -5
Post by newburydave on Jan 27, 2012 6:52:54 GMT -5
Dave - I found what you shared fascinating, but disagree that all Scientists don't believe in God. I'm actually hearing the opposite. That the more they find out, the more they have to concede God exists. I suspect there's a third party intervening and editing the info we're getting. DL; I guess I misspoke. My read is that most serious researchers in Physics and the Life sciences are being forced to acknowledge that there is a designer who must be omniscient and transcendent. If they don't start out as Christians or believers of some kind, their research data forces them into becoming one. Unfortunately, there are "scientific" disciplines where the life of the discipline itself is tied up in maintaining the fiction of materialistic evolution. Archaeology and surprisingly Oceanology are two of those. Mainstream Archaeology is committed to the "Millions and Billions of years" scenario of evolution, despite the growing body of evidence that refutes it. Their response to those who question evolutionary dogma is about like the way the Cardinals treated Galileo about planetary motion. "Recant or die (professionally)." In oceanography; a leading Ictheologist (Fish Biologist), who had made major breakthroughs in fish biological research, was fired from Woods Hole Research Institute (here in Massachusetts) last year because his colleagues found out that he was a Christian and didn't believe in materialistic evolution. No other reason was given, he was head and shoulders above all the other researchers in his biological research work. Those prejudices, specifically within the "Academy" of Palentologists and Archeologists" are what I was referring to. In those disciplines, according to our friend with the dinosaur museum in Maine, no is allowed to discover that dinosaurs are not 50,000,000 years extinct; regardless of what evidence to the contrary is found. SGD dave
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Jan 27, 2012 19:12:49 GMT -5
Post by dragonlots on Jan 27, 2012 19:12:49 GMT -5
Dave,
The antho is, as far as I know, a go. I just don't have the official guidelines approved yet. I'll be hopefully talking to the publisher over the weekend. Since she doesn't want to start submissions until June - she won't be in a hurry to get going on it just yet.
I'll take pitches - for anyone who wants to send one my way. Remember, I have one antho open and one that will be in a few months.
In Him, Dana
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Jan 28, 2012 9:23:47 GMT -5
Post by j2starshine on Jan 28, 2012 9:23:47 GMT -5
I find it interesting that of the twelve animals on the Chinese calendar year, only one is considered mythical. The dragon...
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Jan 28, 2012 9:28:45 GMT -5
Post by j2starshine on Jan 28, 2012 9:28:45 GMT -5
That reads wrong The dragon is the only "mythical" creature on the Chinese calendar year.
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Jan 28, 2012 11:29:17 GMT -5
Post by newburydave on Jan 28, 2012 11:29:17 GMT -5
I'd question if "mythical" is the proper term. Might "mystical" be a better choice.
As with most things Chinese, translation into non-Chinese is problematic. The dragon is considered to be the mystical soul of China. How much of that is spiritual and how much is in the physical realm is not something that a round eye like me can guess.
Somehow I think that dragons are quite real to the Chinese.
SGD dave
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Jan 30, 2012 11:18:26 GMT -5
Post by dragonlots on Jan 30, 2012 11:18:26 GMT -5
'Different Dragons' pre-call now posted on the Anomalous Readings thread. My publisher had them printed and passing them out to various authors at CoSine. Am excited because a couple of well known writers are interested. Again, can't tell you who unless I get a story from the.
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