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Post by myrthman on Dec 10, 2009 0:19:25 GMT -5
New movie coming out next summer from Disney and Jerry Bruckheimer. From what I've heard, it's a live-action retelling of the animated short that was part of Fantasia (where Mickey dabbles in magic and makes a big mess) set in modern day New York City. The trailer at apple.com looks phenomenal. I'm looking forward to it now, but I was a bit skeptical when I first heard of it. What are your thoughts?
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Post by beckyminor on Dec 10, 2009 10:00:41 GMT -5
Wow...it does look quite cool...my only gripe is Nicholas Cage. I'm not a fan. But maybe this will be a chance for him to stand in a new light for me.  I liked the moment where the apprentice says "Are you crazy?" and the sorcerer holds up his fingers like: "little bit."  |
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Post by Jeff Gerke on Dec 10, 2009 10:07:46 GMT -5
Jerry Bruckheimer + Disney = movie magic (with or without apprentices)
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Post by beckyminor on Dec 10, 2009 10:13:57 GMT -5
I shudder to think how long it takes them to render movies like this now, with all the gajillion moving parts that all the CG elements have. The technical end of it seems magical in its own way!
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Post by Resha Caner on Dec 10, 2009 10:42:03 GMT -5
Actually, I find the idea of someone hunched over a drawing board drawing the frames of Bambi by hand, one at a time, to be more impressive - cool as CGI may be.
Edit: And I should add that some CGI movies seem to have computer-generated plots as well (or maybe the infinite number of monkeys at the keyboard).
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Post by beckyminor on Dec 10, 2009 11:01:04 GMT -5
Actually, I find the idea of someone hunched over a drawing board drawing the frames of Bambi by hand, one at a time, to be more impressive - cool as CGI may be. Hee hee...I used to BE one of those people hunched over a light table, drawing things by hand, one at a time...so maybe my baffled nature comes from the fact that the way they do things "nowadays" is a little foreign to my art vocabulary. (Of course, I was never anyplace like Disney...God's plan superseded that ambition...long story short.) Yeah, I do have to agree with you there, for sure. Sometimes it's like the eye candy pushes plot depth right out the window. So, from this particular preview, I can say the film certain looks exciting (from a visual standpoint), but it's pretty impossible to see if there will be any plot to speak of. We can hope, right?  |
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Post by Resha Caner on Dec 10, 2009 11:12:00 GMT -5
I used to BE one of those people hunched over a light table, drawing things by hand, one at a time Very cool. Did Veggie Tales ever cross your desk? ... No wait, they're CGI too, aren't they? I always do, as this is what gets the attention of my kids. Have I told you my Spider-Man/Star Wars story? I think I did in another thread, and how frustrating it can be that movies aimed at kids contain the things they contain. I mean, Jim Carrey as the Grinch? Yuck. I still watch the original. |
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Post by beckyminor on Dec 10, 2009 11:43:16 GMT -5
Yep, Veggie Tales are also CGI. There are very few people doing hand-drawn, Christian content. Nest entertainment (they do Bible films as well as stories of other historical heroes of the faith) does traditional work, but I believe even they send the bulk of the in-betweens to be done overseas. Such is the case with pretty much all "cartoon animation" you see on tv as well. As for me, I worked in children's educational software for a while, freelanced a bit, then pretty much set the field aside to rear my kids. My heart has always been for storytelling (film, novels or otherwise) but novels have taken center stage at this phase of my life because I can do that without living 18 hours a day at an animation studio. I don't want to miss the one shot I have at raising my kids. Okay, personal tangent aside, I think the story I remember from you, Caner, was your experience/dissatisfaction with Transformers. But Spiderman falls into the same category: a film my boys would love to see, but I can't allow it.  |
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Post by dizzyjam on Dec 10, 2009 12:04:37 GMT -5
I can understand with the recent Transformers movie, but what was wrong with the Spider-Man movies?
And a great case of being pleasantly surprised in the plot of a movie was The Matrix. I was so convinced it was another big budget special effects movie with no plot that I didn't bother going to see it while it was in the theater. I regret that now as I would have enjoyed the visuals on the big screen. When someone convinced me that there was a great story to it, I rented it and was blown away by the entirity of this wonderful film. It's not one for the young kids to watch, but the analogies that can be drawn to describe our faith is outstanding and I think is appropriate for supervised teenage viewing.
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Post by Resha Caner on Dec 10, 2009 12:20:05 GMT -5
I was upset with Star Wars (Episode 3) and Spider-Man as well. The problem was that I had already hooked my kid on my old comic books. I was pretty certain, based on my older son's personality, that he would eventually watch Spider-Man whether I wished it or not. So then I had a dilemma. I decided to watch it with him, and explain what I didn't like, even some of the things I had naively overlooked as a kid in my own comics, etc. My hope is to build his judgment rather than dictating what he does.
dizzy, as an example of my objection, Spider-Man 2 was the worst, IMO. The scene with Doc Ock in the hospital when they try to remove the robotic arms was way over the top. It was gratuitous violence that seemed to attempt to make all the blood and gore comical. There is way too much violence in American media to begin with, but if it's going to be there, I want the trajedy of it conveyed.
One of my favorite movies that deals with violence is "The Princess Bride". The conversation with the kid where the grandpa challenges the idea that the bad guy has to die is priceless. Of course that's not a perfect movie either, but I loved how that point was brought out.
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Post by beckyminor on Dec 10, 2009 14:14:01 GMT -5
I can understand with the recent Transformers movie, but what was wrong with the Spider-Man movies? Just for a frame of reference, Dizzy, my kids are VERY young...the movie watchers among them are 9 and 5, so we have very limited fare upon which we can draw. Sadly, even what passes as children's entertainment goes over the line sometimes. But aside from the gratuitous violence Caner already mentioned, I also think of the upside-down kiss scene in Spiderman, which I totally would have had to fast forward, merely for the bra-less wet t-shirt element involved. I don't expect a comic book movie to be without romance or fighting, but I guess I'm pretty prudish about the level and context of those things. |
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Post by myrthman on Dec 10, 2009 20:58:23 GMT -5
I had to give up comics themselves a few years back. It's almost porn these days!
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Post by beckyminor on Dec 10, 2009 21:08:03 GMT -5
Yeah, comics and fantasy art are both guilty as charged. |
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