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Post by Kessie on Oct 5, 2011 20:17:56 GMT -5
Oh wow, that sounds really well thought out. So your world is very musically-inclined? I think that was the sort of thing I wished Anne McCaffery's Crystal Singer could have been.
Also, I LOVE the idea of the magical artifacts, cursed or whatnot. Always so unpredictable and so great for storytelling.
Your dragons sound very unique, having to go on a High Flight in order to breathe fire. That's such a great idea! Do you have any books published?
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Post by myrthman on Oct 5, 2011 22:10:37 GMT -5
Not yet
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Post by Kessie on Oct 7, 2011 22:12:36 GMT -5
Chooseyb and Kessie; Your comments about dragons got me thinking about the interraction between one of my dragon/human POV pairs in a short story that I've written that's been simmering on the back burner for a few years. I think I'll write out the dialog I'm going to insert and post it. SGD dave I keep checking back, hoping you've written your dragons' conversation. Any progress on it? :-)
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Post by newburydave on Oct 7, 2011 23:46:31 GMT -5
Kessie;
I'm not sure when it'll be. Bookmark this thread and the board will notify you by email whenever something else is posted.
That particular story line has been a problem for a year of more, all my dialog comes out sounding like an cheap comic book. I'm trying to ressurect one of my earliest short stories and it's hard. I can see why some authors say it's easier to write over than to clean up an old story.
The setting is somewhat humorous, Tom (the young human, @21 yrs) has just been rescued from certain death by Jerith (the young Le'as cadet). Jerith drops Tom on his head when he lands at his starship and knocks him out. Tom comes to in the Scout ship cabin.
The idea for the dialog was Tom's being miffed that God sent him a Guardian dragon instead of a guardian angel, who wouldn't have dropped him on his head.
But there's so much wrong with the story that I can't just insert that dialog. Whenever I look at it so much other stuff that needs to be fixed jumps out at me.
I'll think on it some and try again, later. So do bookmark this thread and you'll catch it when it happens.
Write on Sis
SGD dave
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Post by Kessie on Oct 8, 2011 10:47:16 GMT -5
Sounds kind of like a Terry Pratchett. Maybe if you spun it as sort of a silly spoof, it'd work? Then cheap comic book dialogue would be okay. It does sound pretty funny (a guardian dragon, lol!)
I'm just browsing the forum by mashing the New Topic button up there all the time, so I get to see the new posts every day. Funny, I've used forums for years and never clicked New Topics. It's great!
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Post by Cat on Oct 10, 2011 23:48:17 GMT -5
This has to be some of the best discussion I've come across. I just love listening to World Builders!
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Post by Torrias on Feb 6, 2012 21:03:59 GMT -5
rebelshade: As for destruction magic, I would think that a person would first have to be able to create something to use to destroy something else. (You have to create a fireball before you can hurdle it towards your enemies.) Thus, in that case, instead of it coming from Opotat, it may be a gift that has be given by Marteth that has been perverted by Opotat. In your world, is harming/killing anyone or anything, for any reason, considered to be evil? Personally, I don't see a lot of difference between killing an attacker with a sword and killing him with a fireball (assuming the fire is enough to kill as quickly and cleanly as the sword can, not that a sword always kills quickly and cleanly either), and God's certainly been known to instruct (or allow) people to use their swords on occasion. So would a fireball used in a "destructive" manner like this be inherently perverted by Opotat, regardless of circumstance? Seems to me more like a matter of it being potentially for good or potentially for evil, like just about any other ability. Lol, and just now as I was about to click to post, I looked back over the quote and realized that may well be what you were saying---that a fireball used in that way may be a perversion of the gift that was given, depending. Oh well, I'll still post just in case it stirs up more of this great conversation @ several others: I've laughed aloud at the reactions to Wheel of Time expressed here. My husband and I quit halfway through book 6, mostly because it was drrrraaaaagggggiiiinnngg out and Mat hadn't been on-screen in forever, but yeah, we've got to agree with everything else that's been said about it in this thread ;D As for dragons and Pern, those two subjects (together and apart) were what got me into devouring and eventually writing fantasy in the first place, and also into a desire to write such coolness from a Christian worldview instead.
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Post by newburydave on Feb 6, 2012 21:44:59 GMT -5
But in Wheel of Time, magic comes from the True Source, but there's male and female versions. The male version is tainted, so if a man uses magic, eventually he'll lose his mind because the male True Source is tainted. This confused me a bit, because I could never figure out where he was coming from with that. Anybody read enough of his books to pin down the worldview he was trying to present (if any)? I've never read these books Kessie, but I think I know where the idea may have originated (no not radical feminism ). In traditional Reformed theology, specifically as stated in early Methodism, the Original Sin taint (aka - total inherited depravity) is only communicated through a child's father. It follows logically that a child's depravity will follow the fallenness of their father not their mother. Thus Jesus was without the fallen nature because he only had a human mother, Mary, and God the Holy Ghost was his father. Since depravity is only passed down through the father from our first father Adam, Jesus was sinless and without taint of Adam's fall despite being a child of Adam through Mary. I believe the Methodist fathers got that doctrine from both the Roman and the Eastern church teachings. I'm not sure how the author used this plot device, but it sounds like an echo of true doctrine about spiritual gifts and the nature of man. SGD dave
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Post by newburydave on Feb 6, 2012 21:49:50 GMT -5
Sounds kind of like a Terry Pratchett. Maybe if you spun it as sort of a silly spoof, it'd work? Then cheap comic book dialogue would be okay. It does sound pretty funny (a guardian dragon, lol!) I'm just browsing the forum by mashing the New Topic button up there all the time, so I get to see the new posts every day. Funny, I've used forums for years and never clicked New Topics. It's great! It's actually the opening scene of a "serious" Space Opera ... Well, Um... somehow I don't think humorous is something I want to make the whole thing. As to navigating the forum, I just discovered the "New Topics" Star link in the universal header bar. Try it, it's cool. SGD dave
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Post by Kessie on Feb 9, 2012 10:29:58 GMT -5
Dave: I suppose the magic could have been like that in Wheel of Time. It was more like male and female gods, though. Or more like a well of magic that men and women drew on separately. I just thought it was totally unfair to the (awesome) male characters, who were slowly losing it, while the women went off and did whatever the heck they wanted with however much magic they wanted to use. It was like ... feminist or something.
Also, having read that one short story of yours, I see why you wouldn't want to do humor. Your style is much too straight for that. (While you can have humor in your style, your style is not, in itself, humorous.) Although playing some things for humor might be fun.
In the story I'm writing right now, the werewolf keeps getting played for humor. I didn't mean for him to be the butt of all the jokes, but he's just so dang funny. His crush just bribed him with baby-talk and a beef bone and it took all the snarl out of him. And all the other characters stood around and laughed.
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