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Post by JC Lamont on Jan 21, 2009 21:28:33 GMT -5
The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most pleasant deity of the ancient world; protective and proud of it; a meticulous, just, forgiving, structure-advocate; a pragmatic, impartially-symbiotic ethnic creator; a women-avenging, sexuality-designing, orphan-protecting, child-defending, slave-respecting, justice-enforcing, empathetic, long-suffering guardian.
The God of the New Testament is arguably the most sacrificial of religious founders; impartial and proud of it; a religious-hypocrisy intolerant; an ardent, prayer-engrossed temple cleanser; a women-dignifying, child-elevating, enemy-loving, torturer-forgiving, disease-healing, soul-saving, life-giving, death-conquering, sin-paying liberator.
The above is a response to Richard Dawkins' now renowned, long-winded, loquaciously garrulous paragraph of insults against the Judaeo-Christian God, which says:
The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction; jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, blood-thirsty ethnic cleanser; a, misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.
And so before he decides to attack Jesus with an equally long list of adjectives aimed at destroying Christ's character, I beat him to it.
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Post by morganlbusse on Jan 22, 2009 12:26:35 GMT -5
Good descriptions! The old testament is full of God's patient, enduring love. Its the people who are unpleasant, jealous, petty, unjust, unforgiving, etc... And yet, God loves them (and us too!) and constantly is asking them to repent and come back to him.
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Post by Divides the Waters on Feb 19, 2009 0:44:56 GMT -5
I think you should post Dawkins' original diatribe so that people can read these side-by-side. I've already said that I love this elsewhere, so I won't repeat myself here (too much). Except to say well done.  |
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Post by JC Lamont on Feb 19, 2009 17:31:32 GMT -5
I think you should post Dawkins' original diatribe so that people can read these side-by-side. I've already said that I love this elsewhere, so I won't repeat myself here (too much). Except to say well done. I did in the original post, goof. No fair, there's no angel or laughing demon smilie here. |
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Post by Teskas on Feb 19, 2009 18:54:37 GMT -5
As my old logic prof never tired of telling us, argument ad hominem (or in this case ad deum) is no argument at all.
Richard Dawkins' little diatribe hasn't earned a response.
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Post by Divides the Waters on Feb 19, 2009 19:13:15 GMT -5
I think you should post Dawkins' original diatribe so that people can read these side-by-side. I've already said that I love this elsewhere, so I won't repeat myself here (too much). Except to say well done. I did in the original post, goof. No fair, there's no angel or laughing demon smilie here. See, that's what I get for posting late at night, tired and depressed out of my mind, and not reading your entire post through.... D'oh!  |
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Post by tris on Feb 26, 2009 15:20:38 GMT -5
Sounds like Mr. Dawkins is under some conviction....I've noticed that people tend to get over-emotional (i.e. name-calling) when they haven't a leg to stand on.
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Post by Jeff Gerke on Feb 27, 2009 8:08:50 GMT -5
It reminds me of the old joke about a pastor's speaking notes for himself.
"Logic weak here. Pound pulpit harder."
;-)
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Post by Teskas on Mar 1, 2009 16:50:50 GMT -5
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Post by Teskas on Apr 13, 2010 18:11:56 GMT -5
Anthony Flew died April 8th. For a long time he was the chief philosophical voice for atheism. People like Richard Dawkins used his arguments as "proof" for the rationality of his own atheistic belief. But in 2005 Anthony Flew came to believe that God did indeed exist. He gave an interview (parts of it are on You Tube) by way of apology because he felt he had led so many astray with his university lectures and writing.
The great irony in his life was that his father was a Methodist minister. Flew never got beyond a deistic notion of God, which is sad. He never believed in the God of the Bible, or in Jesus as Savior. However, it can be encouraging for Christians that change is possible for the opposition.
As Jesus said (Matt 5:44), pray for your enemies. May Anthony Flew rest in peace.
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Post by morganlbusse on Apr 14, 2010 8:17:25 GMT -5
Amen.
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Post by tyroctar on Apr 15, 2010 0:06:09 GMT -5
I think its funny that Richard Dawkins, wrote went on rant about there being no purpose in the Athiest lifestyle (I don't remember the exact quote exactly) but it was something like, "They complain (other athiests) that athiesm doesn't have a purpose for life. Well, you know what that true, and you better get used to it. If you can't, well that's tough."
The funny, self-refuting thing about this is that Richard Dawkins doesn't believe in a purpose for life, but militantly believes that its his purpose in life to tell people there is no purpose in life. I think that's enough said. Sometimes intelligence can make you blind.
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Post by fluke on Apr 19, 2010 12:01:13 GMT -5
Ever hear the old saying, "Educated beyond his intelligence"?
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Post by tyroctar on Apr 20, 2010 2:01:59 GMT -5
No, but that's what I was thinking. Thanks, Fluke.
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Post by mechanism on Jul 29, 2010 19:11:45 GMT -5
Amen to this!
GOD = LOVE
Richard Dawkins seems to be expressing his hate based on his emotions, and through his own self-loathing. He's dead wrong! You can't find the answers through yourself.
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