Post by metalikhan on Jul 29, 2009 2:58:49 GMT -5
How many of you have pets that sometimes exhibit intelligence beyond what's normally considered the intelligence of their respective species (such as canine, feline, equine, etc.)?
I'm not just talking about their ability to do things we train them to do. I'm also thinking about ways they strive to communicate their wishes and how they figure things out for themselves. On the one hand, you could argue these are just aspects of instinct that people don't usually notice; but what do you make of, say, a dog or cat that figures out how to do something or make an aid for achieving what it wants. Or the one that takes some aspect of training to another level without being taught? Or figures some way to express its personality or emotions (displeasure, tattling, humor, conning, impatience, etc) clearly enough to communicate with us but in ways uncharacteristic for its species?
I'll limit examples to three lest this turn into a long shaggy dog tale. One dog couldn't reach the kitchen counter where I was cooling grilled chicken breasts. No problem. She pulled drawers far enough out of the lower cabinets to make a stairway to the counter — not something I ever taught her!
Another time, her sister (a drama queen) failed in her attempts to flirt and schmooze treats from our plates. She threw herself down, kicked, screamed, banged her head on the floor. By then, we were laughing at her antics so she got up, stomped to her kennel, and sat with her nose in the corner huffing and grumbling, refusing to look at us. This was not any form of seizure — this was a tantrum.
One young girl-pup spent several weeks cataloging what she could and couldn't chew. Left black shoe, right black shoe, left tennis shoe, right tennis shoe, sock, sock, rug, left/ middle/right sofa cushion — never repeat-chewing what we said no to before giving her a dog toy to teach her the toy was her acceptable toy. Spool forward in time — she decides that if she wants something, the correct thing to do is offer us one of her things (gnawed cow hoof, slobbery rawhide knot, saliva-slimed tennis ball) in exchange. (Here's my half-chewed pig ear — can I have your toast?)
This goes beyond the Beastmaster, Dr Doolittle or anthropomorphic versions of understanding animal behavior. Studies on autism that have been applied to the studies of animal behavior fail to address these peculiarities. It also doesn't fit with New Age-ish ideas of animal communicators. It's said that humans only use a small percentage of their brains; but when I see animals exhibiting the kinds of oddities I mentioned (and more), I wonder what percentage of their brains have rarely been used (or at least observed). It makes me wonder what intelligence in those creatures God created to serve us might have been obscured from us when the Fall occurred.
I know that the question of animals in heaven has been discussed on another thread — I'm not repeating that. This is more a soft SF question. What I wonder is what ramifications might there be if the communications ability between our species and theirs was less difficult? What applications might be enhanced if we could access their intelligence beyond the current companionship and service levels?
I'm not just talking about their ability to do things we train them to do. I'm also thinking about ways they strive to communicate their wishes and how they figure things out for themselves. On the one hand, you could argue these are just aspects of instinct that people don't usually notice; but what do you make of, say, a dog or cat that figures out how to do something or make an aid for achieving what it wants. Or the one that takes some aspect of training to another level without being taught? Or figures some way to express its personality or emotions (displeasure, tattling, humor, conning, impatience, etc) clearly enough to communicate with us but in ways uncharacteristic for its species?
I'll limit examples to three lest this turn into a long shaggy dog tale. One dog couldn't reach the kitchen counter where I was cooling grilled chicken breasts. No problem. She pulled drawers far enough out of the lower cabinets to make a stairway to the counter — not something I ever taught her!
Another time, her sister (a drama queen) failed in her attempts to flirt and schmooze treats from our plates. She threw herself down, kicked, screamed, banged her head on the floor. By then, we were laughing at her antics so she got up, stomped to her kennel, and sat with her nose in the corner huffing and grumbling, refusing to look at us. This was not any form of seizure — this was a tantrum.
One young girl-pup spent several weeks cataloging what she could and couldn't chew. Left black shoe, right black shoe, left tennis shoe, right tennis shoe, sock, sock, rug, left/ middle/right sofa cushion — never repeat-chewing what we said no to before giving her a dog toy to teach her the toy was her acceptable toy. Spool forward in time — she decides that if she wants something, the correct thing to do is offer us one of her things (gnawed cow hoof, slobbery rawhide knot, saliva-slimed tennis ball) in exchange. (Here's my half-chewed pig ear — can I have your toast?)
This goes beyond the Beastmaster, Dr Doolittle or anthropomorphic versions of understanding animal behavior. Studies on autism that have been applied to the studies of animal behavior fail to address these peculiarities. It also doesn't fit with New Age-ish ideas of animal communicators. It's said that humans only use a small percentage of their brains; but when I see animals exhibiting the kinds of oddities I mentioned (and more), I wonder what percentage of their brains have rarely been used (or at least observed). It makes me wonder what intelligence in those creatures God created to serve us might have been obscured from us when the Fall occurred.
I know that the question of animals in heaven has been discussed on another thread — I'm not repeating that. This is more a soft SF question. What I wonder is what ramifications might there be if the communications ability between our species and theirs was less difficult? What applications might be enhanced if we could access their intelligence beyond the current companionship and service levels?