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Post by Nova on Sept 8, 2009 8:42:54 GMT -5
Hi CS I'm trying to some writing for Dias-Domhan and i don't really understand how magic is supposed to work in this world can you perhaps explain it a bit more.
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Post by Christian Soldier on Sept 8, 2009 17:36:55 GMT -5
As I understand it, magic and science are the same thing, just idfferently worded. In other words, the scientific method might be called the magical method instead. Beyond that, you're free to add to it to your heart's content. That's the idea.
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Post by Wolfie on Sept 10, 2009 13:25:59 GMT -5
I was thinking that if it is too long, we can serialize it. Too short, well, nothing wrong with a quick story. I suppose that will depend on how many really short works we get. Enough and we'll put a min cap. Like flash fictions. Those are hard to write and hard for some writers to get their point across. It would be interesting if someone wrote a good flash fiction piece for AF. |
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Post by Wolfie on Sept 10, 2009 13:46:57 GMT -5
AF is a great idea. I look foreword to reading the first issue and future issues.
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Post by Christian Soldier on Sept 10, 2009 22:18:12 GMT -5
A quick note here: The Anomalous Fiction project has ascended to its new name. Hence forth, it shall be known as the Cross and the Cosmos. I've opened a new thread to reflect it.
That said, we're excited, too, Wolfie, very excited. We've already gotten some great fiction and we're looking forward to being able to further the cause of our God and our genre.
IHS -- Glyn
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Post by fluke on Sept 11, 2009 20:29:49 GMT -5
CS,
Somethiing I'm not sure I understand regarding TU. The sheet says "(Note: this magic is not intended for supernatural uses. Enchantments are used for supernatural intentions-good and bad.)"
Does that mean no calling forth demons but casting eversharp on a blade is fine?
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Post by Christian Soldier on Sept 11, 2009 20:50:39 GMT -5
Frank,
First off, "Magic" would be referred to as science in this realm. The word "enchantent" is used when referring to supernatural powers and such. There for, the Magical Process is used to gain facts abaout a given theory or subject, while a farmer might use an eversharp enchantment to keep his plow in good working order.
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or a demoniac might use an enchantment to call forth a demon to do some task or other. Does that make sense?
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Post by fluke on Sept 12, 2009 9:51:54 GMT -5
Not yet clear. What is the difference in uses and intentions? That may be my point of unclarity. Does it mean I don't need 8 8th level wizards standing at the points of an octogram and each holding a large, dribbly candle in one hand and a staff in the other to perform the rite of Ash Kente?
I've been picturing it as alchemy, but want to be sure I'm clear.
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Post by Christian Soldier on Sept 12, 2009 23:28:04 GMT -5
Science IS like alchemy. Let me give you an example: all the sciences fall under the "Magic" category. The 8th level wizards would would almost be making an enchantment. I picture the echantments as being almost like code. It's not something you would want to do off the cuff and has very, very strict rules and guidelines.
So, let's recap. If I went to the Magical Academy, I might study such concepts as engineering, physics, design. A magician is often called upon to design bridges, cannon, mines, and invent all sorts of wonders.
An enchanter(mage, priest, etc) is an expert on the Language. The Language is the same language used when God created the world; however, it is not possible to use it to create, but only to change, shift, or morph what already exists. Therefore, a mage does not create a fireball but superheats the air and sends it flying. He might add a dab of color for effect. He might also strengthen an the edge of a plow, but he could not create a plow. Not from nothing anyway.
Does that make any sense?
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Post by waldenwriter on Sept 13, 2009 0:33:43 GMT -5
Sorry to jump into the discussion a little late... I checked out the site. It is nice and clean, has easy-to-read content, and good navigation. These are very good things to have on a website. I do have a question. Do the stories submitted have to be set in one of the Twin Universes? Not that I mind doing so, I just want to know. I hope I can be involved in this project somehow. I have worked with an e-zine before - a Christian e-mangazine called Anime Angels - but they haven't published anything since early 2007. I was only published in three of their issues. I published an article, a manga review, and the first chapter of Darkly Bound, my current novel-in-progress (as the story stood in early 2007...that chapter wasn't that great, though). None of those were short stories, though. The only short story I've ever had published was a historical fiction one called "The Princess and the Emperor," which was published in the 2003 edition of the Anthology of Short Stories by Young Americans.Oh, lastly...someone asked about alchemy. Alchemy is essentially a science - it involved using scientific methods to turn lead into gold (or try to anyway). It also involved finding the Philosopher's Stone, which could transmute lead into gold. The idea of it has been expanded to include other things, like the Stone granting immortality via an "elixir of life." (This idea was used in Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, which was called Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone in England). The anime Fullmetal Alchemist also treats alchemy as a science. |
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Post by fluke on Sept 13, 2009 13:52:53 GMT -5
CS,
Thanks! That's much clearer now.
Frank
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Post by jtwriter on Sept 13, 2009 14:02:07 GMT -5
I am the person who set up the world of Dias-Domhanis. There is a question on how the magic of this world works. It is like science, think of it as magic that can be taken into the lab and tested. So this magic works on established laws and is generally used to aid. Although it would be okay to have someone try to subvert it.
Enchantment is used to call on spirits, call on the dead, conduct curses, subvert nature. Enchantments are conducted as rituals.
Most magicians would have nothing to do with enchantment.
I hope this clears up any question about the use of magic in this world.
You might ask why make this distinction. There are two truths: a)generally Christians are queasy about any mention of magic, and 2) much of fantasy uses magic. Therefore, to remedy these two, I decided to make magic more scientific. Just remember, it is not science but it is studied and used as science is in our world.
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Post by dizzyjam on Sept 13, 2009 15:49:38 GMT -5
So essentially, the "magic" in the fantasy world you've created isn't really "science" by another name and really is "magic", but unlike the way you're working with "enchantments", the "magic" in this fantasy world operates with the same rules that "science" in our "real" world does in that the "magic" has to be theorized and proved and then used with exact measurements and stuff so that the "magic" is more practical than mysterious.
That begs the question though, do non-magic users understand this or does it come across as "mysterious" to them?
I'm really not planning on writing in the fantasy universe because I've always been more attracted to the writings of sci-fi than fantasy, so it's the "Triangle" for me, but this part of the conversation got so interesting I just had to chime in to make sure I was understanding it right and to see about the question that was sort of bugging me with it all.
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Post by Christian Soldier on Sept 13, 2009 16:13:04 GMT -5
Sorry about the confusion, folks!
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Post by tris on Sept 14, 2009 8:26:32 GMT -5
So do all the stories in each universe have to link together in one long continuous arc or is it more like a collection of "slices of life" for each universe?
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